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	<description>The Australian tech community discusses the Australia 2020 Summit</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Community Involvement Tools by Dorotam Konszky</title>
		<link>http://2020summit.org/2008/02/community-involvement-tools/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorotam Konszky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I have an idea for Mr Kevin Rudd. Maybe it is not a new one. I am a teacher and the literacy skills in our schools are poor. In order to improve them just a little,why don't we subtitle all the TV programmes for young and old. It will definitely help. Thanks.Regards-Dorota Konszky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I have an idea for Mr Kevin Rudd. Maybe it is not a new one. I am a teacher and the literacy skills in our schools are poor. In order to improve them just a little,why don&#8217;t we subtitle all the TV programmes for young and old. It will definitely help. Thanks.Regards-Dorota Konszky</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lookin&#8217; for an invite? by mattatcgs</title>
		<link>http://2020summit.org/2008/02/lookin-for-an-invite/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>mattatcgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 06:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry that should have read www.bangthetable.com/australia2020</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry that should have read <a href="http://www.bangthetable.com/australia2020" rel="nofollow">http://www.bangthetable.com/australia2020</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Lookin&#8217; for an invite? by mattatcgs</title>
		<link>http://2020summit.org/2008/02/lookin-for-an-invite/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>mattatcgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 06:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Bang the Table is providing an opportunity for all Australians to have a say prior to the summit.  Bang the Table is the community engagement website.  We are hosting a page for each of the summit discussions and are already getting some pretty interesting feedback from the commmunity.  All comments will be part of a report passed on to summit convenors and attendees (those we can get in touch with).

Love you all to come and have a say.  The index for the 2020 summit is www.bangthetable.com/australiasummit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Bang the Table is providing an opportunity for all Australians to have a say prior to the summit.  Bang the Table is the community engagement website.  We are hosting a page for each of the summit discussions and are already getting some pretty interesting feedback from the commmunity.  All comments will be part of a report passed on to summit convenors and attendees (those we can get in touch with).</p>
<p>Love you all to come and have a say.  The index for the 2020 summit is <a href="http://www.bangthetable.com/australiasummit" rel="nofollow">http://www.bangthetable.com/australiasummit</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Community Involvement Tools by Jim</title>
		<link>http://2020summit.org/2008/02/community-involvement-tools/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hyper link to the Oz Ideas wiki is http://ozideas.wetpaint.com.  We've already received a number of good ideas submitted and ready to vote on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hyper link to the Oz Ideas wiki is <a href="http://ozideas.wetpaint.com" rel="nofollow">http://ozideas.wetpaint.com</a>.  We&#8217;ve already received a number of good ideas submitted and ready to vote on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Community Involvement Tools by Jim</title>
		<link>http://2020summit.org/2008/02/community-involvement-tools/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've already set up a wiki to act as a forum for the 20,699,000 of us that aren't invited.  It's called Oz Ideas at ozideas.wetpaint.com.  It's free.  Anyone can participate (even witout registering), and you can post your own ideas as well as vote on others.  

Check it out.  If you like it, invite others to come to the Oz Ideas wiki.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve already set up a wiki to act as a forum for the 20,699,000 of us that aren&#8217;t invited.  It&#8217;s called Oz Ideas at ozideas.wetpaint.com.  It&#8217;s free.  Anyone can participate (even witout registering), and you can post your own ideas as well as vote on others.  </p>
<p>Check it out.  If you like it, invite others to come to the Oz Ideas wiki.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lookin&#8217; for an invite? by Fred Rieben</title>
		<link>http://2020summit.org/2008/02/lookin-for-an-invite/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Rieben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The flag issue should be represented and not by the same old Ausflag mob. 'Southern Cross and Boomerang' is the most popular new flag design for Australia. There are currently over twenty thousand cars wearing the sticker with over sixty thousand stickers distributed. As such it's designer should be invited to represent the majority of Australians who want a new flag. Visit flagoz.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flag issue should be represented and not by the same old Ausflag mob. &#8216;Southern Cross and Boomerang&#8217; is the most popular new flag design for Australia. There are currently over twenty thousand cars wearing the sticker with over sixty thousand stickers distributed. As such it&#8217;s designer should be invited to represent the majority of Australians who want a new flag. Visit flagoz.com</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lookin&#8217; for an invite? by Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://2020summit.org/2008/02/lookin-for-an-invite/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with concerns about the list so far. Some high-profile applications are clearly wanting to go for personal reasons, i.e. reinforce their public profile and have "influence", not because they have any real ideas for the future of all Australians.

What also concerns me is the statement that "more than 400... sent application forms." Sorry, which forms are these? Where were they distributed? Where were they even announced?

This goes back precisely to the selection criteria I &lt;a href="http://stilgherrian.com/politics/who_for_2020_summit/" rel="nofollow"&gt;discussed&lt;/a&gt;.

As an aside, I've just registered the domain &lt;strong&gt;topic9.com.au&lt;/strong&gt; and will soon set up a blog covering the topic 9: "he future of Australian governance: renewed democracy, a more open government (including the role of the media), the structure of the Federation and the rights and responsibilities of citizens." I've posted an initial &lt;a href="http://stilgherrian.com/politics/topic_9_registered/" rel="nofollow"&gt;announcement and call for contributors&lt;/a&gt;, but won't get it happening properly until tomorrow night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with concerns about the list so far. Some high-profile applications are clearly wanting to go for personal reasons, i.e. reinforce their public profile and have &#8220;influence&#8221;, not because they have any real ideas for the future of all Australians.</p>
<p>What also concerns me is the statement that &#8220;more than 400&#8230; sent application forms.&#8221; Sorry, which forms are these? Where were they distributed? Where were they even announced?</p>
<p>This goes back precisely to the selection criteria I <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/politics/who_for_2020_summit/" rel="nofollow">discussed</a>.</p>
<p>As an aside, I&#8217;ve just registered the domain <strong>topic9.com.au</strong> and will soon set up a blog covering the topic 9: &#8220;he future of Australian governance: renewed democracy, a more open government (including the role of the media), the structure of the Federation and the rights and responsibilities of citizens.&#8221; I&#8217;ve posted an initial <a href="http://stilgherrian.com/politics/topic_9_registered/" rel="nofollow">announcement and call for contributors</a>, but won&#8217;t get it happening properly until tomorrow night.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lookin&#8217; for an invite? by Phil</title>
		<link>http://2020summit.org/2008/02/lookin-for-an-invite/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Laurel, I saw this list and blanched, why? Because many of those names I would not want to see at this event, it's gonna turn into a circus where the media focus on celebrity designers, scientists etc.

I'm sure they are all worthy folks, but really they all have one thing in common, relative access to the halls of power already, all successful and thought leaders to be sure, but still the usual suspects, where is the diversity this was supposed to bring to the table?

For every Kate Blanchett we lose some unsung hero from the community who might be able to bring a different perspective to the table with the added effect of introducing the halls of power to someone new who might just challenge the status quo in a way the Blanchetts of Australia cannot.

As a cyclist and someone seriously interested in transport issues I wouldn't want to see the NRMA's Alan Evans at the table, why? Because he does nothing to advance soft transport issues, especially those that might interest cyclists, Evans works actively against our interests, but because he's with the NRMA his voice would have more weight at the table despite the fact that he's about furthering a single interest that will have a declining place in Australia's future transport mix.

In his place I'd rather see a community activist like Fiona Campbell, long a passionate advocate for cycling, public transport and a reorganisation of our cities along lines that would advantage those in place of the personal motoring that is strangling our cities.

But I go on.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Laurel, I saw this list and blanched, why? Because many of those names I would not want to see at this event, it&#8217;s gonna turn into a circus where the media focus on celebrity designers, scientists etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they are all worthy folks, but really they all have one thing in common, relative access to the halls of power already, all successful and thought leaders to be sure, but still the usual suspects, where is the diversity this was supposed to bring to the table?</p>
<p>For every Kate Blanchett we lose some unsung hero from the community who might be able to bring a different perspective to the table with the added effect of introducing the halls of power to someone new who might just challenge the status quo in a way the Blanchetts of Australia cannot.</p>
<p>As a cyclist and someone seriously interested in transport issues I wouldn&#8217;t want to see the NRMA&#8217;s Alan Evans at the table, why? Because he does nothing to advance soft transport issues, especially those that might interest cyclists, Evans works actively against our interests, but because he&#8217;s with the NRMA his voice would have more weight at the table despite the fact that he&#8217;s about furthering a single interest that will have a declining place in Australia&#8217;s future transport mix.</p>
<p>In his place I&#8217;d rather see a community activist like Fiona Campbell, long a passionate advocate for cycling, public transport and a reorganisation of our cities along lines that would advantage those in place of the personal motoring that is strangling our cities.</p>
<p>But I go on&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Goal: Sydney As Tech Hub by mick</title>
		<link>http://2020summit.org/2008/02/vision-sydney-as-tech-hub/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it doesn't have to be Sydney and that Sydney has issues, but I don't think any other state can do it in the next 15 years. 

Sydney has:
* Other big business.
* More capital.
* More people, more resources (?)
* Air hub. 

That being said, lots of momentum in Brisbane and it's an hour closer to Asia and USA. Plus it's the Data Portability centre of the world with Chris Saad there and now even Cam's going http://twitter.com/cameronreilly/statuses/678706722

I don't think Ballarat or Adelaide can do it without serious, serious effort and money. 

To be top 5 you are up against;
* Silicon Valley
* New York
* Dallas
* Ireland
* Israel
* Shanghai
* Bangalore/Mumbai
* Vancouver
* London
* Amsterdam
* Tallinn (Estonia) 

Sydney has momentum on its side. 

(of course I'm biased, very happy to try Brisbane, although it's an hour from the beach...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it doesn&#8217;t have to be Sydney and that Sydney has issues, but I don&#8217;t think any other state can do it in the next 15 years. </p>
<p>Sydney has:<br />
* Other big business.<br />
* More capital.<br />
* More people, more resources (?)<br />
* Air hub. </p>
<p>That being said, lots of momentum in Brisbane and it&#8217;s an hour closer to Asia and USA. Plus it&#8217;s the Data Portability centre of the world with Chris Saad there and now even Cam&#8217;s going <a href="http://twitter.com/cameronreilly/statuses/678706722" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/cameronreilly/statuses/678706722</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Ballarat or Adelaide can do it without serious, serious effort and money. </p>
<p>To be top 5 you are up against;<br />
* Silicon Valley<br />
* New York<br />
* Dallas<br />
* Ireland<br />
* Israel<br />
* Shanghai<br />
* Bangalore/Mumbai<br />
* Vancouver<br />
* London<br />
* Amsterdam<br />
* Tallinn (Estonia) </p>
<p>Sydney has momentum on its side. </p>
<p>(of course I&#8217;m biased, very happy to try Brisbane, although it&#8217;s an hour from the beach&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Goal: Sydney As Tech Hub by Stilgherrian</title>
		<link>http://2020summit.org/2008/02/vision-sydney-as-tech-hub/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All great points for establishing a Hub &lt;em&gt;somewhere&lt;/em&gt; in Oz. None  are specific to Sydney -- and there are good reasons to go somewhere &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; than Sydney.


Sydney's transport system and other infrastructure like water is at breaking-point. Growth should be encouraged elsewhere.
Sydney is already very expensive, which could discourage younger folk moving there/
Regional stagnations is an issue also to be tackled at the Summit. A Hub in another city kills another bird with that stone.


Ballarat is a little over an hour from Melbourne and could be a good choice. Nice symbolism of the Hub as a second gold rush.

Adelaide certainly needs growth, and already has good digital infrastructure in the CBD and a creativity-positive environment.

Any others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All great points for establishing a Hub <em>somewhere</em> in Oz. None  are specific to Sydney &#8212; and there are good reasons to go somewhere <em>other</em> than Sydney.</p>
<p>Sydney&#8217;s transport system and other infrastructure like water is at breaking-point. Growth should be encouraged elsewhere.<br />
Sydney is already very expensive, which could discourage younger folk moving there/<br />
Regional stagnations is an issue also to be tackled at the Summit. A Hub in another city kills another bird with that stone.</p>
<p>Ballarat is a little over an hour from Melbourne and could be a good choice. Nice symbolism of the Hub as a second gold rush.</p>
<p>Adelaide certainly needs growth, and already has good digital infrastructure in the CBD and a creativity-positive environment.</p>
<p>Any others?</p>
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